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Page to note down the important notes from the discussions in class.
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**discussion from Jan. 22 2008
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**discussion from Jan. 29 2008
I moved the Language topics to "Language Barriers" page. Jin
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**discussion from Jan. 31 2008
>Time management issues
The ICU students don't have the time to get in touch with one another because of time.
As in Courtney's point of view compared with UCSD students,
ICU students tend to use their lack of time as an excuse to avoid certain social situations.
(why avoid those situations? An answer may be found in the "relation issues" discussion.)
Not only the mentalities about time making, but Physical difficulties,
such as lack of transportation causes these problems for ICU students.
As the last train for the Chuo-line is earlier than that of Yamanote line,
and the last bus from ICU leaves before 12pm, they cannot hold parties till midnight.
Also, since ICU is in urban areas, we are not allowed to come to school by car,
so therefore, time restrictions will be very severe for us.
(In UCSD, most of the students have cars unless they live really near the campus)
実家通いThere are many people who "commute" from their home.
Almost half of the students of ICU are from Tokyo area,
and therefore, there are lots of students who's living
far away from ICU with their parents.
This physical distance causes some trouble too. JIn
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>Relationship issues
Is today's discussion 'the critical approach'?
I also think that Japanse style for making friends is stressful. However, this is Japanese style.
This style(and this Japanse society) is based on, made by most? many? Japanese this sense of value.
Japanese change this Japanese sense of value style to California style (everyone is friends.).
This is not solution. Everybody likes this style? This is not.
ICU students also cannot change it. If ICU students change their style for making friends
(California style) in ICU, they would not work at Japanese company or Japanese society.
I think what is important is knowing own style and other style. Both should be recognized.
For example, When I meet コートニー first time, I think "she come from California, so her style may be
'directly making friends style'." At the same time, コートニー thinks that "Miki is Japanese, so she may
contact with me with MAAINOTUMEKATA style." By knowing each otehr style, there would prevent being
a misunderstanding little bit. Thinking about each other style is intercultual communication, right?
In solution,We should not say 'they should change'. We should not deny something. Denying leads opposition.
We may say 'the ways to make friends are different, so let's know many ways to make friends, and then ・・・
（What can we say? 'let's use the way properly' ?)
I thought this yesterday. I am very very sorry too long? Can you understand my English sentences? Miki
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Ok, Miki, I understand your I idea about not denying someone's styles.
An good intercultural communication can't be established if one side denies the other culture.
Just as Ms. Waslewski said in the previous lecture, what we need to do must be
"mutual understanding 相互理解" to each other's culture.
(Is this what you wanted to say, Miki?) Jin
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Yes, it is！ And, what can we do for 相互理解？
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Hi, this is Masumi.
I was looking for wiki in moogle...too bad moogle wiki thing isn't
working :-/ I appreciate Jin for creating wiki! Yay *applause*
I read the discussion briefly. Thank you thank you!
We also talked about what we should say for the conclusion, right?
So we concluded that... (or I my thought?)
(rough conclusion)
*relax, don't stress yourself out
*we need to be open
*we shouldn't think too much (about the future, what to do for the new friend, etc)
*don't worry about "hi-bye" friends, (lol) you can talk to them someday
*go with the flow?
*don't be afraid?
Okay, I'm sorry...I have more to say, but I need to write up an essay
for another group project (><) I have 3 group projects. But from 2/5,
I'll be free of other 2 projects, so I can focus on this.
I apologize what I'm saying is kinda messy.
I'll think about "相互理解", too.
It's about the wasy to "understand each other", right?
Important topic.
Masumi
- i finally read everything and added a new page about inital meetings....sorry i didnt have the info about this site until this weekend! -- courtney (2008-02-04 17:10:46)
#comment
Woww!!! You have 3groap projects, don't you!?
Take sleep time!!!
Just brifly.
The conclutions which you wrote are advices for Japanese, right?
I think we need to advices for non-Japanes.(but, I do not know...)
*Japanes have own step by step style for making friends, so understand it.(Most? Japanese must think more friends.)
*Talk to Japanese actively.
or ~.
Miki
And, we will meet on out of class, won't you?
Will we decide time on Tuesday class?
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Page to note down the important notes from the discussions in class.
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**discussion from Jan. 22 2008
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**discussion from Jan. 29 2008
I moved the Language topics to "Language Barriers" page. Jin
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**discussion from Jan. 31 2008
>Time management issues
The ICU students don't have the time to get in touch with one another because of time.
As in Courtney's point of view compared with UCSD students,
ICU students tend to use their lack of time as an excuse to avoid certain social situations.
(why avoid those situations? An answer may be found in the "relation issues" discussion.)
Not only the mentalities about time making, but Physical difficulties,
such as lack of transportation causes these problems for ICU students.
As the last train for the Chuo-line is earlier than that of Yamanote line,
and the last bus from ICU leaves before 12pm, they cannot hold parties till midnight.
Also, since ICU is in urban areas, we are not allowed to come to school by car,
so therefore, time restrictions will be very severe for us.
(In UCSD, most of the students have cars unless they live really near the campus)
実家通いThere are many people who "commute" from their home.
Almost half of the students of ICU are from Tokyo area,
and therefore, there are lots of students who's living
far away from ICU with their parents.
This physical distance causes some trouble too. JIn
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>Relationship issues
Is today's discussion 'the critical approach'?
I also think that Japanse style for making friends is stressful. However, this is Japanese style.
This style(and this Japanse society) is based on, made by most? many? Japanese this sense of value.
Japanese change this Japanese sense of value style to California style (everyone is friends.).
This is not solution. Everybody likes this style? This is not.
ICU students also cannot change it. If ICU students change their style for making friends
(California style) in ICU, they would not work at Japanese company or Japanese society.
I think what is important is knowing own style and other style. Both should be recognized.
For example, When I meet コートニー first time, I think "she come from California, so her style may be
'directly making friends style'." At the same time, コートニー thinks that "Miki is Japanese, so she may
contact with me with MAAINOTUMEKATA style." By knowing each otehr style, there would prevent being
a misunderstanding little bit. Thinking about each other style is intercultual communication, right?
In solution,We should not say 'they should change'. We should not deny something. Denying leads opposition.
We may say 'the ways to make friends are different, so let's know many ways to make friends, and then ・・・
（What can we say? 'let's use the way properly' ?)
I thought this yesterday. I am very very sorry too long? Can you understand my English sentences? Miki
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Ok, Miki, I understand your I idea about not denying someone's styles.
An good intercultural communication can't be established if one side denies the other culture.
Just as Ms. Waslewski said in the previous lecture, what we need to do must be
"mutual understanding 相互理解" to each other's culture.
(Is this what you wanted to say, Miki?) Jin
----
Yes, it is！ And, what can we do for 相互理解？
----
Hi, this is Masumi.
I was looking for wiki in moogle...too bad moogle wiki thing isn't
working :-/ I appreciate Jin for creating wiki! Yay *applause*
I read the discussion briefly. Thank you thank you!
We also talked about what we should say for the conclusion, right?
So we concluded that... (or I my thought?)
(rough conclusion)
*relax, don't stress yourself out
*we need to be open
*we shouldn't think too much (about the future, what to do for the new friend, etc)
*don't worry about "hi-bye" friends, (lol) you can talk to them someday
*go with the flow?
*don't be afraid?
Okay, I'm sorry...I have more to say, but I need to write up an essay
for another group project (><) I have 3 group projects. But from 2/5,
I'll be free of other 2 projects, so I can focus on this.
I apologize what I'm saying is kinda messy.
I'll think about "相互理解", too.
It's about the wasy to "understand each other", right?
Important topic.
Masumi
- i finally read everything and added a new page about inital meetings....sorry i didnt have the info about this site until this weekend! -- courtney (2008-02-04 17:10:46)
#comment
Woww!!! You have 3groap projects, don't you!?
Take sleep time!!!
Just brifly.
The conclutions which you wrote are advices for Japanese, right?
I think we need to advices for non-Japanes.(but, I do not know...)
*Japanes have own step by step style for making friends, so understand it.(Most? Japanese must think more friends.)
*Talk to Japanese actively.
or ~.
Miki
And, we will meet on out of class, won't you?
Will we decide time on Tuesday class?
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**discussion from Feb. 5 2008
American can speak anybody. (ex:During waitnig airplan)
Japanese tend to not.
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How to stop conversation? (→’Oh, I an gonit to listen music, now.' and something)
American stlye: bowling （can get some points from converstaion)
Japanse style: table tennis
American: argueing is just arguind. They do not mind what other people think.
Japanese: political, region, baseball×
dry or wet concept
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